-"all around shoe"
-Heel hook spikes are great
-Heel hook spikes are just slightly too big, sand them down a bit (while keeping them "sharp")
-my experience was that they wear out REALLY FAST. I've had 5.10 Pitons for 2 years, and these just lasted me just two months!
-The lining makes them SMELL more than any other shoe i've owned
I've only the shoes long enough to make my toes scream! So far it is fantastic. Out of the box and onto the rock by far the most performance I've ever had from a climbing shoe. I cannot wear all the new self torture shoes although I've tried them all. As comfy as a new shoe can be. Performs very well out of the box. Looking forward to wearing them out.
Made in China
I tried the Cliff and a dozen others but the ones I wanted and could not find were the TC PRO from La Sportiva.